This time I don’t have any interesting technical information about movements to offer, but ask my readers for help in identifying watch movements.
I have not yet been able to identify the movements shown below and would therefore be grateful for any information. Specifically, I am looking for the manufacturer, a caliber designation of the manufacturer (if available) and ideally an indication of where this information comes from (source).
If you can clearly identify a movement here, it will be added to the Uhrforum Watch Movements Archiv, with your name if you like.
Let’s go!
Movement 1
9´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Dial: Eterna
Movement 2
16 ½´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Very similar to Buser/Frenca Cal. 15 with 18”’ and Buser Model No. 1 in SOGC (Swiss Official Gazette of Commerce), registration No. 17331 of 1909.
Movement 3
8 ¾´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Similarity with Felsa 107.
The Paulson shows a Hora 80 (Hora = predecessor of Cortebert).
The hallmark could stand for H85, but so far there is no evidence that a Hora 85 exists.
Movement 4
16´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Movement 5
12 ¼´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Barrel with Maltese cross stop-work.
Movement 6
8 ¾´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Both Movemente are technically identical and differ only in the bridge shape.
On the dial it says REMAS: Brand of D.C.H. Van Hattum; Netherlands; watches; around 1920 -> nothing else to find.
No reference to Swiss Made -> possibly French?
Movement 7
18´´´, Cylinder escapement, early crown winding (before 1900).
Movement 8
18 ¾´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Dial: Union Horlogère
Movement 9
19´´´, Swiss lever escapement, negative winding.
CRITERION = possibly trade mark of Achille Hirsch.
Movement 10
11 ½´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Presumably FHF.
Movement 11
18´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Swiss patent 51828 on barrel bridge is from 1910 and belongs to Phenix -> Movement similar to Phenix 779.
Movement 12
19´´´, Swiss lever escapement. Barrel with Maltese cross stop-work.
Dial: Union Horlogère.
Movement presumably FHF.
Movement 13
5 ¼ x 9 ½´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Dial: Eterna
Movement Eterna or possibly Agassiz (very similar to Movement SOGC, no. 31945 of 1920).
Movement 14
13 ¾´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Movement presumably FHF.
Movement 15
19´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Movement by FHF, setting lever spring very similar to caliber 2126.
Could be the Savonnette (hunter) version of the Model 517 in the SOGC, No. 42584 from 1928.
Movement 16
19´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Movement 17
6 ¾ x 8 ¾´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Bridge side labeled: 7 J, SINGAPORE, 80A.
Movement 18
10 ½´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
SWISS.
Movement 19
12 ¼´´´, Cylinder escapement. Wolf teeth gearing on crown and ratchet wheel.
Probably LeCoultre 2. Unfortunately, I could not find a comparison picture of the dial side of a definitely identified LeCoultre 2 so far.
Dial side labeled with: L. FERNIER &… BESANCO…
Movement 20
16´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Movement 21
6 ½ x 8 ¼´´´, Swiss lever escapement. Many parts made of plastic.
Inscription on bridge side:
APHEL Co. Ltd., NO JEWELS, UNADJUSTED, JAPANASE PARTS, ASSEMBLED IN HONG KONG
Movement 22
10 ½´´´, Pin lever escapement.
SWISS MADE.
Movement 23
8 ¾´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
FHF logo in dial side.
Movement 24
6 ¾ x 8 ¼´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
The dial read CEBA, Japan.
Movement 25
7 ¾´´´, Swiss lever escapement, Automatic.
Rotor labeled with: Japanese Parts
Movement 26
Identified by Christoph Lorenz as Russian Luch 1816. Thank you very much!
8 ¾´´´, Swiss lever escapement, Automatic.
Movement 27
9 ¾´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Very similar to Berner-Deckelmann model no. 1913 in the SOGC, no. 24182 from 1914.
Movement 28
6 ¼ x 10 ¼´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Movement 29
11 ¾´´´ Cylinder escapement, key winding.
Train bridge marked DEPOSE.
Movement 30
18´´´, Swiss lever escapement, key winding.
Movement 31
10 ½´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Maybe predecessor of EB 213?
Movement 32
10 ½´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Maybe predecessor of AM 420?
Movement 33
Identified by Eric Leskinen as Brun model N 9. Thank you very much!
Model No. 9 is not an official caliber designation, but was used for registration in the Swiss Official Gazette of Commerce (SOGC) on 10.03.1905. Brun registered the click shown in the SOGC on 10.05.1907.
19 1/4´´´, Swiss lever escapement. swan neck fine regulation.
Dial labeled ‘SOVEREIGN WATCH FY’ (Factory).
Very specific click:
Movement 34
10´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Dial side marked DEPOSE. Dial with red 12 -> approx. 1915 -20.
Movement 35
18´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Plate labeled CALIBRE DEPOSE.
Movement 36
10 ½´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Train bridge labeled SWAN -> movement possibly from Record Watch?
Movement 37
10 ½´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
SWISS MADE. Dial with red 12 -> approx. 1915 -20.
Movement 38
12 ¼´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Barrel bridge labeled UH (Union Horlogère).
Except for the shape of the click, identical to Orion Watch model no. 18943 in the SOGC, registration no. 15501 from 1908.
However, the setting lever spring is almost identical to Cortébert model No. 1 of 1913 (SOGC no. 22424)! Large round clicks are also typical for Cortebert!
In the Tirette Laval catalog, the setting lever spring and other parts are listed as Orion 13”! In the Swartchild 1946 there is an Orion 12”’ with the same setting lever spring, but other bridges.
Movement 39
10 ½´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Movement 40
10 ½´´´, Pin lever escapement.
Basis Watch. Caliber possibly Asian?
Movement 41
13 ½´´´, Pin lever escapement.
Baumgartner, possibly predecessor or variant of the caliber 20.
In the Swartchild 1946 catalog, an almost identical Baumgartner 13”’ is listed, which has a hacking device. This variant is also listed in the 1932 SOGC as Baumgartner model no. 196 (registration no. 49064).
Also very similar to the BFG 899 13”’ (Paulson).
Movement 42
11´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Dial side labeled with AS. Caliber?
Movement 43
10 ½´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Ratchet wheel marked ROLCO -> brand of Rolex.
Movement identical to Beguelin/Damas No. 3, 4, 9, 12 except for bridge shape.
Movement 44
10 ½´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Dial side hallmarked with AS 175 in oval -> but the AS 175 looks different!
Some similarities with the AS 536.
Movement 45
11 ½´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Bridge labeled PROT = mark of Schild, Eterna, Racine.
Almost identical to Schild Frères model No. 109 SOGC from 1896, registration number 3611.
Movement 46 / 46a
11´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Movement 46: Savonnette (hunter) variant.
Made in Switzerland.
Movement 46a: Lépine (open face) variant of movement 46.
Dial with red 12 -> approx. 1915 -20.
Movement 47
10 ½´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Movement 48
11´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Swiss Made. Dial with red 12 -> approx. 1915 -20.
Movement 49
8 ¾´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Movement 50
18´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Movement 51
Identified as an Alex. Hüning by Chris Keller. Thanks a lot!
19 ¼´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Maltese cross stop-work on barrel, swan neck fine regulation.
Movement 52
19´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Movement 53
10 ¾´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Maybe FHF?
Movement 54
18´´´, Swiss lever escapement. Probably around 1880 – 90.
Basis = FHF. Caliber number?
Movement 1: Chopard LUC
Movement 2: H. Thièbaud, Fleurier
Movement 55
18´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Barrel bridge labeled E. I. in triangle: not listed.
Maybe FHF?
Movement 56
Identified as Lévy / Eclipse by VinSer from the PocketWatch.ch forum. Thank you very much!
18´´´, Cylinder escapement.
The shape of the cover plate for the hand setting wheel perfectly matches the Eclipse 18″‘ Anker from the 1949 Jacob, but this movement has a cylinder escapement!
In 1905, Lévy registered a cylinder movement as No. 7 in the Swiss Official Gazette of Commerce (SOGC), which is almost identical to this movement.
Movement 57 / 57a
19´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Presumably FHF. Caliber?
57:
Dial side labeled N. R. Fränkel Frankfurt a/M.
Plate marked NRF.
57a:
Almost identical to movement 57.
Movement 58 / 58a / 58b
Swiss lever escapement.
FHF, as inscribed under the barrel bridge with FHF logo (arrow with apple).
58:
22´´´
Movement hallmarked with picture of a temple = Henry Levy, Biel.
Movement widely identical with FHF model no. 280 in the SOGC of 01/17/1903 (registration no. 9262). This one is probably a predecessor of it.
58a:
21”’
Slightly smaller and small differences compared to 58.
58b:
19”’
Even smaller and fine adjustment with cam disk.
Movement 59
20´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Pretty certain Gallet / Electa. The hallmarked logo was not identified according to mikrolisk.de, but was found on a Gallet & Co. pocket watch movement.
Very similar to Gallet Model No. 3 in the 1908 SOGC (registration number 15782).
Movement 60
10´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Movement 61
6 ¾ x 8 ¼´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Movement marked Orient. Caliber?
Movement 62
6 ¾ x 8 ¼´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Movement marked Orient. Caliber?
Movement 63
18´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Possibly Helios/Perfecta (Flume 1912), because of identical cover plate for hand setting wheels.
Movement 64
19 ¼´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Fragment of a chronograph.
Described in the Swiss patent CH21709 by Guinand from 1900.
Movement 65
10 ½´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Ratchet wheel labeled WELTA.
Movement 66
12´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Presumably FHF.
Movement 67
18´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Movement 68
18´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Movement 69
19´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Hidden pallets. DSC hallmarked on barrel bridge = Ducommun-Sandoz & Cie.
Movement 70
13´´´ Cylinder escapement.
Assembled in a ladies pocket watch from Birmingham from 1881.
Movement 71
16´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Dial side labeled HP -> manufacturer = Parrenin, caliber?
Crown wheel bridge and dial inscribed with La Solidarité Horlogère Besançon.
Movement 72
14´´´, Cylinder escapement, Maltese cross stop-work on barrel.
Plate hallmarked with G. T in oval -> maker = Revue / Thommen.
Movement 73
11 ½´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Movement hallmarked with Medana in oval.
Movement 74
18 ¼´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Very similar to the Brandt & frères model No. 18 H. M. in the SOGC from 1892 (registration number 375). But the movement there has an extra bridge over crown and ratchet wheel, so it seems to be older than this one here.
Movement 75
18´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Movement marked with FHF logo (arrow with apple) on plate under barrel bridge. Barrel bridge marked PRECIOSA (brand used by several manufacturers).
Movement 76
11´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Dial side marked HP (= Parrenin). Like Parrenin S, but other bridges and small second. Dial with red 12 -> approx. 1915 -20.
Movement 77
18´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Maybe a predecessor or successor of the AS 220.
Movement 78
19´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Movement 79
19´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Movement 80
19´´´, Swiss lever escapement. Unknown logo (butterfly in circle).
Movement 81
19´´´, Swiss lever escapement.
Movement 82
19´´´, Swiss lever escapement. Cyrus G. T (Gedeon Thommen).
Movement 83
19 3/4´´´, Swiss lever escapement. Plate marked with dove of peace with J. B. in a leaf -> Excelsior Park, Les Fils de Jeanneret-Brehm
Movement 84
19´´´, Swiss lever escapement. Most probably from Perla (= Straub).
Many thanks to Patryk Schastok, who sent me pictures of an Alpina / Union Horlogère movement with the same winding and handsetting mechanism. Since Straub built several Alpina movements, this movement probably comes from the same source.
The mystery has now been solved: the setting lever spring is listed in a factory finder as Perla 25C with 19´´´:
Movement 85
19´´´, Swiss lever escapement. Unknown logo (standing lion).
Movement 86
18´´´, Cylinder escapement.
Movement 87
19”’, Swiss lever escapement.’Systeme Glashütte’ bridge design.
Hidden pallets. . Bimetallic screm balance with Breguet hairspring.
Swan neck fine regulation.
Movement #41 – I have an identical movement I’m trying to identify from a 20’s/30’s Military watch – The BFG 899 is the closest reference I found, which lead me to this page.
The Swartchild 1946 catalog reference is not a match as it shows the fourth wheel position inline with the escape and third wheels. Our movements have the fourth wheel offset towards the outside of the movement forming an acute angle with the other two pivots.
Mine has the letters V and X inscribed under the balance, and the swiss-made inscription is a match for the BFG 899 reference you show.
No.33 could be a Record movement.
Unfortunately no caliber number is known.
https://www.ebay.nl/itm/395018461059?hash=item5bf8ef5f83:g:8KAAAOSwHz5lX6Df&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwNZMio8JGWpjeb2JSj6hc8ewr3IYH0ciMaRUC1ZcAP%2BaSHe3S%2FwiD8lXnAZHqMSLEH1yUKSBB9hSNf50riKuzMwpltg0%2FHHWU4aUBPwqZeajEtVUeafWQCIRRIqR2umVBEam%2BhLheanKkoDv40HRjzK2rYwPOOVNMpoxN092L10JgJ1tDLxrAtz4otKPQG1Nt9k4u3m%2FXYZb8JrcTxEVpcTwK71xuTN5ibU%2FUwac%2B7NnUDTVCJRNhQOJXxnwEdEfsA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_bchLKSYw
Thanks again Chris!
What a find! Yes, they are pretty similar. But I doubt that these movements were manufactured by Record Watch. Record movements I know so far are complettly different. But who knows…
Movement nr 77 looks like a AS 18″‘ cal 220
https://forumamontres.forumactif.com/t31111-calibres-a-schild-extrait-de-la-classification-horlogere-1936
You are right, no. 77 looks pretty similar to an AS 220. But the dial sides are quite a bit different. Maybe a predecessor successor of the AS 220…
Hello
Timepiece no. 51 is probably an Alex Hüning.
I have the same timepiece in my collection.
Kind regards.
Chris Keller.
Hi Chris,
thanks a lot, I think you nailed it!